Monday, March 7, 2011

The Bachelor's of Nursing. Tell me again why I should get it.

Some days ago I was assigned a nursing student from a university to follow me in the care of one of my ICU patients and give certain meds under supervision. I've done this before and I'm always surprised at how easy they have it. The instructors, when they come by, are very nice, helpful, and never expect them to know anything. For instance, she was asked how many units of insulin the patient should get, and she hesitated a second and then seemed to venture a guess. The instructor teasingly called her out on it. A guess? In my day, if I hadn't been prepared with an answer, let alone tried to guess on a medication as important as insulin, I would've had my head stuck on a pike in front of my school as a warning to students forever.

Like 57% of nurses in the US, I was prepared by a community college and received an associate's degree in nursing. So tell me: do you think I will learn anything more about taking care of sick human beings by completing a bachelor's degree in nursing with her university? Because I could. The school is associated with my hospital and will get paid by my hospital if I go there.

No one in nursing acadème or nursing administration comes out and says that an associate's degree is not enough to be a nurse. But they do fixate on the idea that it's not enough to be considered a professional. Not enough to be considered independent or autonomous. Not enough, in other words, to compete with physicians. Going back at least to the 1980s, nurses have been trying to get out from under the paternalism of physician-led healthcare. The general public thinks we're just order-followers, med-passers, and scalpel-hander-overs, and we're still trying to shake that image. For some reason, we think the only way to shake it is with academics. So there are countless RN-to-BSN programs out there, and our hospital system will gladly pay for us to go through them—so I can't really complain that they want us to do it.

Okay, yes I can.


It's kind of silly. My degree is a two-year degree. The four years at a university school are typically divided between two years of general education and two years of formal nursing. In other words, it's a two year degree. But, they say, a university program also includes coursework on research, community health, ethics, and nursing theories. So did mine. So what's the formal difference? A formal degree. Something that academics and administrators can point to. But probably not anything that's going to help you in the care of sick human beings—in bedside care.

The irony is that at the same time we ADN nurses are encouraged to get our BSN, we're also told we don't need a BSN to be good nurses, and that the BSN program is not going to teach us very much we don't already know. They might as well say: it's basically pointless, or it only helps a little, but more importantly it achieves some ulterior goal aside from improving you as a nurse. Goals like being able to say you have more BSN-prepared nurses for your Magnet award application.

The reality is that a nurse doesn't need a higher-level liberal arts education in order to be a nurse. That doesn't make us unprofessional. There's a science to nursing, but there's also an art; there's a logic to nursing, but there's also a knack. We don't like to admit that we're basically like car mechanics, but we are. We know can interpret pulmonary measurements and blood gases, but we can also just eyeball a patient and have a good idea if they'll fly or crash when taken off the ventilator. How different is that from a mechanic who knows how a catalytic converter works but also knows whether a knocking sound is benign or bad? The idea that an academically-prepared professional must fix your body but mere 'skilled labor' can fix your car is absurd. The difference is the degree of knowledge, not the category. Whether you're a car mechanic, a nurse, or a neurosurgeon, you're basically exercising your knowledge as you do tasks. This includes physicians. Physicians are not artists or philosophers. They're task-oriented like everyone else.

What does this have to do with my BSN? Well, since physicians are in the same ballgame as the rest of us, and not an elite group of Ph.D.s, I don't see the need to compete with them academically as long as I can achieve my goals in patient care. I've never met a resident or physician who cares what degree I have. They care about my license and expertise.

But I'll go for it. I'm open to learning new things. It's a stepping-stone to advanced practice, and I don't have to pay for it. But I still kinda worry about the efficiency and efficacy of this: in five years, will it matter than I spent this much time and effort away from my family to do this? Will I think I wasted my time? Most likely there's no increase in pay or status. Am I just submitting to some outdated dream of nurses who abandoned patient care for academic politicizing? I don't know. I just hope this effort helps me more than it helps them.

21 comments:

  1. Dude, this tricked out your ads on either side TO THE MAX.

    Part of why I left nursing school (for an ADN) was because the largest health system here is no longer hiring ADN RNs - it's BSN or nothing. Current ADNs have to, like, enter an RN to BSN program within 2 years & graduate in 5 with a 2.5 or higher or something. Who has time to do a BSN with four kids at home? Honestly?

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  3. I graduate in May with my LPN because it was cheaper to do it first and then do an LPN to RN program which I have decided will probably have to be an LPN to BSN instead because of lack of options here. I don't have to get my BSN, the MSN program I want has a RN to MSN program so either way it's about the same. There is one hospital here that only hires BSNs though. Oh, and I have 4 kids at home. They're 7, 6, 4, 2 and the youngest will be at least 7 or 8 before I'm done with school.

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  4. I have a Bachelor of Arts in Geography. So when exploring my nursing school options, I found that all the local hospitals started all new grads out at the same pay rate (even if you had been a hospital tech for years). The total cost of the BSN program was aroun 40 K. The total cost of the ADN program was 3k (thank you SC lottery money). I'll be paying off my BA loans for the next 20 years and really didn't want to add to it. All the hospital HR/nurse managers admitted they prefer to hire the ADN students over the BSN students b/c the ADN graduates stay longer while the BSN students go back to school sooner or try and move up the "ladder". I have no desire to be a manager. Ideally, I would love to have my BSN but I just didn't want to pay for it. I hope to go back to an RN to MSN program next year. That is where having the BA from another degree with be handy, I can get right into a MSN program. I'm a big supporter of more education, you'll never go wrong with more education. doing the math, I wonder if it would have been cheaper to have bitten the bullet and paid for the accelerated BSN program? By the time I end up paying to do the BSN or MSN program, I don't know. Whether I end up doing RN to BSN or RN to MSN program, it is still going to cost. hopefully I can get my work to subsidize. but the ADN route made me an RN the fastest.

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  5. I have a BS, MBA and now an ADN. Where I work as an RN, is a teaching hospital etc. They are pushing to an all BSN nurse staffing. The problem is I'll end up paying for most of it myself, but the BSN doesn't help you be a better nurse--it helps you climb a ladder and move into advance practice. If that is not what you want to do, then it isn't really worth your time and money.

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  6. I've been told that the most important reason for the BSN program is for leadership and management skills. Well I have a bachelors in an unrelated field as well as 5+ years of actual management experience albeit in the restaurant industry, but management is management in my book, and I am currently managing a busy private practice office, and I'm still being told I need the BSN. The kicker is, the only university that is offering an RN to BSN program where I live won't take second bachelors students. Which leaves me no options but to do an MSN program...but I wanted to do the FNP-MSN program, only to find out I need a PhD now. Rediculous! And all for what? So I can have a bunch of letters behind my name to prove that I'm a damn good nurse? Agggggh!

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  7. FoxyKate - I'm all about ad optimization! ;\ I should've figured, I guess. Actually I've been thinking the sidebars are too cluttered and I should trim it down to one.

    High five to Kate and Jennifer for having four kids.

    Anonymous 1:11 - I totally agree with you, and should've included that. I could have graduated earlier had I entered a BSN program. But I was already up to my ears in college debt from an attempt at graphic design, and I didn't want to incur more. If you're going to get paid the same, why would you spend $40-80,000 instead of a few thousand?

    Imagine if dentists or doctors had a choice between going a $100k in debt or $10k, but still got paid the same either way. No one would ask them to make that choice.

    Christy - with your background I would totally recommend either a BS to MSN program or just get your RN license whichever way and then get your MBA. I'm pretty sure nurse administrators tend to have MBAs over MSNs.

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  8. and BSN make what $1/hr more, what's the point. Most bridge programs are online and theory based, easy but a waste of time and money.

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  9. I guess my thought is that... if they're paying... why the heck would you NOT do it? Yes there is the time commitment, but honestly I've got 2 kids and one on the way and I'm in a masters program to become a CNM and its doable, and even enjoyable at times.

    One of the biggest conflicts within the Midwifery community is the lack of consistent educational standards for Licensed Midwives as opposed to CNMs... I believe that educational standards are a good thing because when you have all (or most) of the information you're better able to selectively apply that information to customize your care plan for each individual patient. Most of my mentors on OB/L&D are ADNs... they've been doing this for 25+ years... they know ALL the tricks, but their thinking about current evidence is often way behind the times and unfortunately hard to change.

    I don't think you seem to have that issue, but again, if someone else is paying for it?? WHY NOT?

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  10. I once shared your dismal and anti-BSN thoughts. We have walked the same path. I started my career with a hospital-program based diploma (technically not even an Associate's Degree program).
    It comes down to the evolution of our profession. We have to compete with the ever-changing and advancing system we work in by advancing our education and our preparedness for what's to come.
    Call it job security, call it advancement, or don't call it at all. But to ignore the transition from skilled technician to educated professional is honestly the worst thing you can do for yourself as a nurse.
    Then again.. I graduated with my BSN and am now in an ACNP program. Go figure that one out. LOL

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  11. I started my path as a nurse while I was pre-pharmacy in a liberal arts university, so changing majors caused me to obtain a BSN. Looking back, I really wish I would have known the difference and gotten my ADN instead (with my only reason being the student loans that I still have). Although, I know that if I would have gotten my ADN, I would have wanted to go back and start on my BSN right away... I'm an educational addict.

    In the last 5 years, I've gotten 3 certifications (CCRN, CSC, CMC) and have been accepted to start a FNP program this summer. It's all about pride for me. Education is power, as I wrote here. :) http://nursinginfluence.com/nursing-certification

    Good luck in your BSN program. I look forward to reading about it!

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  12. The Nurse DudeMar 13, 2011 02:05 PM

    If you're happy with where you're at and what you're doing, don't let anyone every talk you into going back for a BSN.

    On the other side of the coin, BSN nurses in some states make $2 more per hour. Even there, you hear nurses who feel the same way you do. At 36 hours a week, that's another 3700 a year. How soon that would pay for itself depends on what kind of program you went into. Around here, it is about 10k for an RN to BSN program.

    However, if you want to go on to be an FNP, CRNA or other kind of advanced practice nurse, then you will need that BSN. In nursing, skills will determine you how valuable you are, not seniority alone.

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  13. If you're comfortable in your job and nobody is telling you to get your BSN, then you can happily stay ADN. Although, you will be able to command a higher pay with BSN and will have that sense of pride that you completed it. If you already know most of the things they are going to teach you, why not just for it? You'll be plenty prepared and you know there will be benefits waiting for you.

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  14. It seems the writing is on the wall. If it takes a BSN to get or keep a job then what's the use of fighting it. Seems fortunate that your employer is willing to foot the bill.

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  15. I'm in the same boat. Might as well get it cause they're shifting it over that way anyhow.
    Boo.
    :p

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  17. Does a BSN make you a better nurse?
    No. But I do feel that obtaining my BSN has helped me think more critically, be more aware of the importance of evidence based practice, and confirm my personal ideas on healthcare and nursing with actual nursing theories.
    I cannot say that I wouldn't have gained this knowledge with years of experience, but I know that at my current point in my nursing career, the BSN program was helpful to me in practice and understanding of that practice.
    Can it make you a better nurse?
    Well the potential is there. The leadership and professionalism information presented is always valuable and if nothing else a confirmation of what many already practice.
    But let's answer a question that we can. Will it hurt anything to get it? You've already said that your employer will pay for it. You will likely get raise upon completion as well, and there are tax write offs for students. So it will be a financial gain. Not to mention the nudge toward that professional title we all deserve and aren't always afforded.
    And it's nothing like your ADN program was. Far fewer hoops and much less political. You're already a nurse, so you aren't having to prove yourself. You are just expanding your knowledge and fluffing some of the creased areas.

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  18. when I came out of my bsn program, my friends in the adn program were more prepared to face clinicals than I was.

    We spent more time doing theory stuff, and it seemed that my ADN friends had more clinical time.

    Couple of years later, all my ADN friends realized they wanted to climb the ladder, and had to get their bsn update, so in the long run, might as well just get your BSN, if you think you might want to do more than staff nursing; but if you just want to do the normal staff nursing, i think adn is sufficient and most likely cheaper. I ended up getting a different degree all together.

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  19. "Physicians are not artists or philosophers. They're task-oriented like everyone else."

    Indeed, medical personnel are not exempted to the fact that doing and experiencing what you had learned helps you to have higher expertise than just studying the mere theories of med school. Though, both (theory and practice) are both necessities, eh.

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  20. I accidently found your post. I have a BSN that I earned in 1977. My dad, a physician, said,"That's the wave of the future. All RN's will soon have to be BSN. Well, I have worked off and on, part time while raising my 8 children. I do the same job as the ADN. We are all in it together. I know some incredible ADN and some not so efficient BSN and vice a versa. It is all a plot as far as I am concerned. The University PhD people need a job and so, We Need More Education! The same with teachers, they "need" a Masters. Where are we going? I began to home school in 1986. I am grateful the Lord led me to it. I was able to break out of the philosophy of the world better. Now I am really a renegade. I am soon to take the exam to be a CPM. (Certified Professional Midwife) I believe in alternative health care and healthy eating. I believe in taking care of ourselves. Good luck. Do what you need to do for your family. Play the game and keep your eyes open. And anyway, education is never a waste.

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  21. Where are you? Is the family OK? I missed reading your posts so I thought I'd check. x

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